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A New Tiller Truck for Bay District?


LEXINGTON PARK (July 8) Should Bay District Volunteer Fire Department, which is almost completely supported by tax dollars, spend nearly $750,000 on a new tiller fire truck, which requires 2 drivers, at a time when they have trouble getting one driver to answer fire calls utilizing ladder trucks during the day?   There is much debate within the fire fighting community as to the wisdom of this decision by Bay District. 
Bay District operates with very little oversight from the St. Mary's Commissioners who fear not granting any request made by the department. Very wisely, the politicians worry about pressure for paid firefighters, something even the volunteers don't want.
  Even though the combination of sprinklers required in new commercial construction along with an expanding tax base, the fire tax rate has not dropped for the Lexington Park area.
 Some volunteers wonder why the mostly tax money will be spent on an expensive piece of fire apparatus which will often not be used due to the shortage of qualified drivers.
 One of our readers says that the money would be better used to buy equipment much more likely to be used. Tiller trucks are great for maneuvering in tight spots in big cities, which is not a real problem for this area.

 Learn more about tiller aerial trucks at this forum at firehouse.com and see specs on the top-rated American LaFRANCE truck. 
 
 






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Tiller Truck Makes Sense Because They Save Lives; But It Takes Drivers to Operate
Over a decade ago, Los Angeles County Fire Department did a study of tillered vs. straight-frame apparatus. They were looking at maneuverability and deployment times- ease of use at an actual incident. The department simulated several typical fire incidents with the ladder company crew required to go to the roof of the building. In every instance, the crew from the tillered apparatus was on the roof, with all of their personnel and equipment present (and power equipment started and running), and they were able to go to the side of the roof to assist the crew from the straight-frame ladder as they stepped onto the roof!  (American Fire Journal)
Minutes, and moments, matter in emergency service delivery- it often means the difference between saving a building or person, or not saving them. However, if you don't have a crew to respond on the ladder truck, then perhaps what type of apparatus you buy doesn't make a difference.
Lt. Kurt Plunkett, Seattle Fire Department     kurt.plunkett@seattle.gov


Put Tiller Truck Where Its Needed
A tiller truck for Bay District? Maybe. Having it housed out of Station 3? NO! Put that sucker in Station 9, where the roads are a little easier to navigate, and people actually know how to drive. Tiller trucks have evolved over the years, and may not be so bad, BUT, housing one in a station as busy as Station 3 is a little odd. My idea would be to put that truck in 9, and transfer Tower 9 to Station 3. Or, better yet, don't get a tiller and get a platform ariel for Station 3.
I think having a tiller truck at Station 3 is a little .. well .. odd. The majority of these responses go down Great Mills road, which is narrow enough, and let's face it, not many people on that road know how to slow down or stop for a firetruck or emergency vehicle. I think the need for a tiller is pretty useless, but, the need for a new platform to replace Truck 3 is needed.
But, there is a backside to this story. A few years ago, Waldorf brought a much needed tiller for their station 3, and it's helped and gone places more then a platform ladder has. Waldorf, which is much designed like Lexington Park and Great Mills, has had their fair share of fires and mutual aid assists in which Tiller 3 has run, and it's proved vital in knocking down the fire, just for the simple fact it can get other places which platforms can't. However, I still stand by my point of not having a tiller at Station 3. Transfer Tower 9 to Station 3 and put the new tiller there.
- Firefighter Follower

Good Ole Boy Politics Comes Before Saving Lives in This County
I know your reading this stuff on the Watchdesk, keep in mind a few things in your reporting. St Mary's county is going through the same thing that the more northern counties like, Montgomery and P. G. etc. went through years ago. The volunteer system here is based on the old good ole boy method of running a firehouse. The influx of population, is putting a real hurt on the response of the volunteer system, and the good ole boy leadership is trying real hard to keep there old ways in place. The problem is that the good ole boy system does not work in a more urban environment. This issue is much, much, much bigger then just a tiller truck. Unfortunately, a good majority of the time politics comes before the job of saving lives in this county.
1 Concerned Citizen


On The Watch Desk: Bay District has chronic staffing problem and doesn't need a tiller truck

Sour Grapes Being Tossed at Bay District
I am a career firefighter out in LA County in California, also had been a volunteer firefighter in AA County, MD for several years prior to my current career.  I have many relatives who live in various areas of St. Mary's County (Hollywood, Mechanicsville) so I always keep tabs on the firefighters and EMS providers in the county just out of interest.  I also follow the online news of St. Mary's Today as well as others. Tiller trucks are usually used in larger cities or areas where congested streets justify the need for the greater maneuverability of tiller trucks.  There is no question that tiller trucks are nimble, easier to maneuver and can get into parking lots and streets where a straight body truck can't. 
Is Lexington Park ready for a tiller?  Maybe...maybe not.  On my last visit to the county, I stopped by Lexington Park to see Bay District's new station.  I did see areas there where a tiller can definitely can be used and would work a whole lot better than their current truck.  Can they completely justify their decision to spend $700,000+?  Doubt it.  So, is it really wise to spend that kind of money?  Yes.  If that truck can fit in a narrow car-clogged parking lot where their old truck can't and as a result save someones life - every penny spent was worth it.
Hollywood has had a tiller truck for a couple years now...can't recall such a fuss raised when they bought a used tiller and had it refurbished.  Having relatives living in Hollywood and knowing the area very well, if there is some place where a tiller IS NOT needed is Hollywood.  So why be on Bay District's case?  Sounds like a lot of sour grapes out there.
Bob Anderson

Question:

Can lip service from an official save your life when you need a medic?

Also, the lack of an available medic unit leaves many in peril of death when medics on duty could save lives...volunteers are not coming forth, ambulance calls are going unanswered and yet departments continue to buy new equipment when no one shows up to drive the ones already in the station, the politicians give lip service to the problem and everyone avoids the issue of paid EMS for fear it will lead to paid firefighters. 
When will there be paid EMS Service in St. Mary's County?


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