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FOLLOWS by one day St. Leonard flipping it's heavy squad....


Flips Heavy Squad on Side!

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WALDORF (Jan. 3, 2008) --- It's a tough start for the new year for local heroes at work with Waldorf Vol. Fire Dept., a day after St. Leonard, flipping their heavy rescue unit over on its side on Rt. 925 (Old Washington Rd.) near Billingsley Road. 
One firefighter was flown from the scene as the giant fire apparatus tumbled over on the driver's side and took out some utility poles in the process. 
Yesterday, two St. Leonard volunteers were injured, one slightly and taken to Calvert Memorial and one flown to a trauma unit, when their heavy rescue squad flipped over on the passenger side at Cove Point Road and Rt. 4. 
The half-million dollar trucks are used for specialty rescues and primarily for motor vehicle crashes as they can carry numerous items of extrication gear, have elaborate arrays of lighting and power capabilities.
There have been a number of crashes involving fire and rescue vehicles in the past few days.  See photos now from NBC 4 News chopper
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Cowboys or Firefighters?

Crash reportedly took place as rescue truck responded to a sick call



Left, skid marks show the high speed of the heavy rescue unit. NBC 4     The truck cracked the electric pole in half and a large crane attempts to lift the truck more than 3 hours after it flipped.   ST. MARY'S TODAY photo by Seif Alramamneh
These skid marks are more than 100 feet long, as seen from the NBC 4 helicopter.  These skid marks will be measured as part of the crash investigation and ought to be very interesting to the insurance carrier and also beg the question as to whether the driver of the squad should be charged with negligent driving. 

By Kenneth C. Rossignol
ST. MARY'S TODAY
WALDORF  (Jan. 3, 2008) UPDATE
According to the Charles County Sheriff's Dept. , a vehicle pulled out into the path of the squad, causing it to overturn.
"Preliminary investigation has revealed a Waldorf Volunteer Fire Department truck, Rescue Squad 3, was traveling south on Old Washington Road with its lights and siren activated while responding to an emergency call. Another vehicle making a left turn from southbound Old Washington Road pulled into the path of the rescue squad truck. The driver of the fire truck swerved to avoid a collision with the vehicle but the fire truck overturned, skidded along the roadway and struck two electrical poles before coming to a rest. None of the four firefighters in the truck was seriously injured. The driver, Scott Alan Sefton, 43, of Waldorf, and two of the passengers, Benjamin Earl Jenkins, 23 of Baltimore and Michael James Fischer, 36, of Mechanicsville, were transported by ambulance to Civista Medical Center, where they were treated and released. A fourth firefighter, Justin M. Zdobysz, 23, of Waldorf, was flown by a Maryland State Police helicopter to Prince George’s General Hospital, where he was also treated and released. The driver of the vehicle that entered the path of the fire truck was identified. The crash is being investigated by Officer R. E. Glover, Jr., of the Traffic Operations Unit."
Why are firefighters driving the heavy rescue trucks so fast, especially around corners when the top heavy units are most at risk for tipping? 

Why are the volunteer firefighters wrecking $500,000 pieces of equipment in dry, sunny weather? 

Even the inevitable vehicle failing to heed the lights and sirens can be avoided by keeping the speed down.  In this case, the skid marks can show the high speed of this fire department heavy squad. 
The call for help that the responding unit is going to won't be helped much when the firefighters are themselves in a wreck.
Slowing down is indeed an option.
Why are these vehicles going so fast when they are so hard to stop? Because there is no accountability. 
Just three years ago, Bel Alton VFD members took an expensive piece of equipment out for a Sunday afternoon joy ride to attend a birthday party and flipped it.
 The older members of the volunteer fire companies are dying off and getting tired, the younger members are often cowboys and not interested in protecting the investment made by the taxpayers, who pay most of the cost of the equipment purchases. 
The sad truth to be faced by the elected officials is that a switch to paid career departments with an accountability based chain of command, vs. popularity contest annual elections of officers, is vital for protecting the public safety and investment in equipment, and to save lives. 
Had either St. Leonard or Waldorf's squad trucks landed on a car, all those inside would have likely been killed. 
Not only is the problem of poor training a danger to the public, but check out the many forums on The Watch Desk for more from firefighters themselves as they discuss the danger to the firefighters that comes from having unprepared and unqualified officers leading fire attacks, putting firefighters in jeopardy as they clamber across the shoddily constructed new housing and apartment buildings in the area.

Your views are invited: send with your name and hometown to staff1@stmarystoday.com
Reader Feedback is below
 
Charles County Sheriff's officers work at the scene of the Waldorf heavy rescue turnover.

ST. MARY'S TODAY photos by Seif Alramamneh

Reader Feedback:

Dear Editor
I know some of what you are saying is true like speed is too high, however some of what you're saying is very false.  Like for example when you said they were responding to a sick call that may or may not be true, but what it matter to someone they perceived it as an emergency which is why they called 911 to begin with.  Who are you to be judging what is an emergency and what is not.  Also don't use the forum "The watch desk" as your only source of information due to the fact that while half of the information on this forum is true, the other half is just the internal petty-ness of the fire departments paid or volunteer it does not matter.  So if you are going to make statements such as "Why are the volunteer firefighters wrecking $500,000 pieces of equipment in dry, sunny weather?" used from the article in this link http://www.stmarystoday.com/News/WaldorfFlipsSquadonSide.html.  Just keep in mind it is not only volunteers that are the problem.  Also in closing the only difference between a paid firefighter and volunteer is a paycheck.
Anonymous fire fighter
Calvert County
(Editor's Note:  The Watch Desk is but one of many sources of information.  The Watch Desk is mostly a collection of cowardly comments from people who do not state their names and holler insults to others from the dark recesses of the web.  Some of what they post is valuable as an insight into the silly mentality of these people and demonstrates further why valuable veteran members of the fire service are subject to popularity contest elections in which the public looses the service of a chief who is trying to maintain accountability, to the whims of young yahoos who do not know what they are talking about, they simply want to buy new equipment whether it is needed or not, do not know their own first due areas and just want to drive fast with all the bells and whistles blowing. Any volunteer or career firefighter is subject to driving too fast, as last  week proved, but at least with a career agency discipline can be meted out to those who fail to follow the rules.  Volunteer chiefs exercise discipline at their own peril, with an eye on the next election.  That is why the quality of the chiefs continues to slip and the volunteers all think they are sacred cows which no one dare criticize.  What good did either squad do for those having the emergencies last week?  The speed demons didn't get there. Worse, they caused countless other assets to be tied up dealing with the mess they caused by speeding.)


Reader Feedback:

Sir:
Your article was distributed across the internet and bears room for comment.
This portion of the article was unnecessary and contributed nothing to the reporting of the accident that occurred.  It clearly attacks Volunteer Firefighters serving their communities and is one sided, not truly representing the Volunteer Fire Service.
Accidents happen to Career Firefighters too.....as, I am sure you are aware of the recent Baltimore City (all Career department) ladder truck accident......where speed and the traffic signal were contributing factors, which left three (3) civilians dead.
Attacks / articles such as this, do nothing but damage the Fire Service (Career & Volunteer) as a whole.  Your assistance in responsible reporting would be appreciated.  
Again, accidents happen to Career and Volunteer Departments.  Note that approximately 72% of the fire fighters in the US are Volunteers.  Of the 30,300 Fire Departments across the US, only 2,087 are all Career.
http://nvfc.org/files/documents/NVFC_Stats_and_Facts_Sheet_2007.pdf
Your references to accountability being maintained by "paid career departments with an accountability based chain of command" is not a valid statement.  The levels of accountability can be debated on both sides of the fence, Career or Volunteer.  If investigated, you may find the accident statistics for neighboring combination Departments, Career & Volunteer, very enlightening.
Thank you for your consideration........
Chief Pete Mellits
MD Director - Eastern Division
Intl. Assoc. of Fire Chiefs (IAFC

(Editor's Note: Chief; Thank you for your letter which will be included in both our print and online editions. As a police and fire beat reporter for the last 20 years, I have been an ardent supporter and advocate of the volunteer companies, with almost every week providing a full page coverage of our "Heroes at Work" in fire and rescue operations. We never charge fire and rescue companies for ads for their functions and seek out their events to support.
However, it has become clear to me that what has worked in the past is not working for us now, as younger members take over the companies and the older ones die off or get tired of trying to ride herd on the eager but often irresponsible young ones.
Equipment is often purchased which is not needed and elections turn out good chiefs for the one who will promise the young guys the most.
When I see a million bucks worth of equipment dumped in dry sunny weather in 24 hours, I can see it is time for a change, or at least serious discourse about the volunteer system. Our volunteer medic unit system has already failed and I fear that if and when the volunteer fire and rescue fails, we will not be ready to institute career.
What the volunteers have done in Southern Maryland in providing fire and rescue service is without equal anywhere in the nation, but less people are willing to volunteer and the ones who have been carrying the ball all these years are simply wearing out, retiring, moving or passing away.
The quality of our young volunteers is good, but like any novice group, they should not be calling the shots and need leadership. That leadership needs to be in charge, perhaps with a two-tier system of voting for operational officers, the popularity contest aspect of the volunteer groups can be contained.
We will always do more than report the news, Chief, this newspaper not only reports to our readers what is happening in the world around them but also tells them what we think about it and provides a forum for the views of our readers, such as you have provided on this matter.  It cannot and will not be the province of any one person or group of people, such as the volunteer firefighters, to judge what is and what is not "responsible reporting" but only shall be decided by our readers. 
This newspaper takes strongly held views on many issues and is not simply breakfast pabulum for the timid and a propaganda machine for political parties or special interests.  We simply report to our readers about the news and tell them what we think of that news. Its all a matter of choice and our readers pay us for this service.
If you have more to add in the future, please send your thoughts along as they are appreciated.
Ken Rossignol
ST. MARY'S TODAY

Reader Feedback:

Editor,
Let me begin by stating that I am not affiliated with any Maryland FD., I've never been to Calvert Co. or Charles Co.  I have been a firefighter for 34 years, and a Chief officer for 24 years.  It was with great amazement that I read your "reporting" of the two fire apparatus accidents in Maryland this week.  I am curious to know what is behind your obviously slanted "reporting".  You make accusations and infer that the firefighters involved in these incidents were ill trained/untrained, speeding, and/or reckless.  I would like to see what facts you have to support your views. 
 
It has been reported that they were responding to a child not breathing, that is a true medical emergency.
 I'm sure, after the County Police complete their reconstruction and investigation, they will be able to determine the speed.  Should you have a certification that enables you to make these determinations from your keyboard, maybe you could offer your expertise.
Until the Police determine the apparatus operator was in violation, where's the negligence?  Had the apparatus not avoided a collision with the vehicle that turned in front of it, the outcome would have much worse.  
Having career staffing pay no means ensures any different outcome.
In the same two days as the St Leonard and Waldorf accidents, a County owned/career staffed engine in Prince George Co VA, a City owned/career staffed Jacksonville FL engine, and two North Hudson Regional Fire career staffed apparatus were involved in traffic accidents, while responding to emergencies. 
Each accident involved firefighter injuries, and entrapment.  In the Jacksonville incident, the scenario was the same as in Waldorf.  Just over two months ago, a Metropolitan Washington Airport Authority engine was involved in a roll-over accident responding to a fire in Arlington VA.  The veteran career driver was found not to be at fault. 
And last month, a Baltimore City Ladder truck struck a vehicle, resulting in a civilian fatality.   Career personnel and accountability is by no means a guarantee that anything would be any different. 
Only days after my taking office as Chief of my Company, one of our engines was involved in a roll-over accident, due to black ice, while returning from a mutual-aid call.  The driver was a 15 year member, past Fire Chief, and a professional truck driver.  In spite all of our training and experience, accidents still do occur.
Since you seem to know so much about these Cowboys, I'm sure you know, many of the area volunteers are employed as career firefighters throughout the region.  I've read elsewhere that the Waldorf driver is in fact, an experienced career firefighter/operator. 
 And what can I say about your Jr. High quality Bel Alton cartoon.  And let's look at this "news" item;
 Police report that the truck was not on a call and that it was operated by a number of young members of the department, including a 17-year-old girl.  Only one person can "operate" any motor vehicle, fire apparatus are no different.  The age of the operator was 31.  In addition to the 17 year old, there were a 19 year old, and two 20 year olds.  While not seasoned veterans, there are many their age in places like Baghdad, Kandahar, and Arlington, why not on a fire truck?
 Taking fire equipment to birthday parties is inconsistent with the purposes for which public funds are appropriated to the volunteer fire companies.  Fire apparatus are regularly taken to birthday parties, block parties, picnics, bazaars, community/neighborhood associations and the like.  It's called Public Fire Education and community involvement.  And this is done by career and volunteer FDs alike.  It is their fire truck, bought by their money, be it tax funds, donations or chicken BBQs, and they are entitled to see and learn about it.  NO, this was not being used as a 'party bus' (as you imply).
 
While I can't speak to the Departments you refer to, I have seen as a whole, no matter where I have been, that the younger members are usually some of the most proud of their stations and apparatus.
 
One one hand you say;  The sad truth to be faced by the elected officials is that a switch to paid career departments..., but on another page plaster The Tax Hell of St. Mary's County, Maryland .   What do you think the outcry would be from the Charles Co. or Calvert Co. taxpayers when they see the cost of this idea?  And where would the Counties, and ultimately the taxpayers, find these funds?
It is clear that you have an agenda, and an axe to grind, in regards to certain, if not all, VFDs in the region.  Your so-called reporting does not even rise to the level of the Enquirer.  I can recall from my high school days, the lessons on yellow journalism, and clearly see an example before me.  PETA should pay a visit to anyone that would use your paper to line their birdcage.
 
 Jim Fairfield
Deputy Fire Chief

(Editor's Note: Thanks for your letter, Deputy Chief from where ever.
No, these fire trucks do not belong to the volunteers driving them, they belong to the community who has paid the taxes that pays for all the bells and whistles of the latest and greatest sales promotion put on by the manufacturers at the annual convention in Ocean City.
The community attends the carnivals, buys the raffle tickets, writes the checks and eats the dinners, breakfasts and crab feasts. 
The community appreciates the service and hard work of the volunteers but deserves to know that when a big rig on a call rounds a corner on a dry road on a sunny day that the half million dollar St. Leonard squad won't be dumped in the process. 
Rt. 925 where the Waldorf squad was operating, is a 40 mph zone and had that driver been doing less than 60, he may have been able to stop in time to avoid missing the vehicle which was legitimately where it had a right to be. 
After observing hundreds of traffic crash reconstruction and having police experts explain how they measure skid marks to determine speed, combined with the aerial photos of the skids, even a cowboy fire chief should be able to understand how I or anyone can figure this one out --- the driver was going at a speed greater than reasonable and faster than he should have been in order to avoid an accident, which is a chargeable offence under Maryland law.
We have often reminded readers to pull to the side and get out of the way of responding fire and rescue units in order to save lives, but safe driving is a two way street. 
Volunteer firefighters killing themselves or others on the way to a call won't help a baby breathe. You apparently are exactly the type of leadership in a fire company which fails to crack down on cowboys and are part of the problem, not part of the solution. I'll bet you win elections without any trouble by winking, blinking and nodding in the good old boy tradition.)


Reader Feedback:

While I have limited time to send the information I intend, I would like to point out that the firefighters involved in the Squad 3 incident are “PAID PERSONEL” from various areas including Virginia and D.C.  The idea that paid firefighters are the answer to end accidents while responding to calls because of their advanced training over volunteers is REDICULOUS. Be grateful for the volunteer systems that our (and your) area have had for so many years.  Maybe focus your articles on a topic that will further assist our volunteers.
Anita Austin
Reader Feedback:
I just wanted to comment on the article "cowboys or firefighters." To the editor; I just want to ask why do you frown upon your fire service and the way they respond. If your house was on fire or you were having severe trouble breathing, wouldn't you want them to respond in a more than timely manner? I don't understand how you can knock someone that is out there trying to save lives. Had it been you, you would be more than grateful that they responded in a timely manner. It amazes me the way people never seem to not pay attention to the importance of the local fire department. And that accident is what it is called, an accident. Try being more considerate, and think if you were in the situation the family who had called 911 was; then would you be happy they were coming to help so quickly. Thanks for the support in the VFD, but try being more understanding in your important, informative, typical day to day work. These are people taking time out of their day to help you yourself and all other areas around the united states. The training done by the people driving volunteer engines, ambulances, squads, and ladders is that of the same a paid organization goes through. Maybe if you yourself tried to do a little research on the classes and courses every Maryland firefighter/EMT is to go through before taking the position they hold, you would understand that it is all of the same of a paid organization. so from now on, try being a little more open minded on the way things are in the fire service. You obviously need to be educated on how things work. As far as the joyride goes, I wonder if anyone from the fire service could come educate yourself on how operations work in the fire department. Probably not considering it would seem to be a lost cause with your single-sidedness.
Josh Buckler
(Editor's Note: Thank you for sharing your viewpoint with our readers. Your stirring advocacy of our volunteers is noted and your points well taken.  But you miss these critical points that our article makes: First, accountability suffers when young and inexperienced members can gang up on a chief who is doing his job and vote him out; drivers whether they be career or volunteer need to slow down and actually get to the fire or medical call in order to help someone.  The two squads last week which wrecked not only failed to get to their calls, but they tied up valuable fire and EMT for hours making those other units unavailable for emergencies, all due to cowboy driving skills.  At least a career department will not have it's operating officers voted out for doing their jobs.  There are other issues involved in this complex evolution from small rural counties to burgeoning suburbia, with an estimated 350,000 people now in Southern Maryland.  Creation of paid departments not only brings about a chain of command not subject to popularity contests but also creates job opportunities for local firefighters now having to drive to Northern Virginia or other areas. The way our politicians throw around money, they might as well spend it on paid full time staffing of firehouses, at least during day hours.  While Ridge, Benedict or Seventh District may not need career firefighters, Solomon's, Waldorf and Bay District certainly do need the extra day staffing.  When Solomon's has a major day time fire, as it has twice in the past ten years, even a sprinklered building was on the ground by the end of the day.  They couldn't even get their own equipment out as an engine taken to the fire by a St. Leonard firefighter, who did the right thing and jumped on a truck and took it to Solomon's Landing. Just a year ago, high winds took a simple discarded cigarette and almost burned down Solomon's, again during the day and only a mile from the firehouse.  No one can be blamed perhaps, but no one should be proud of the response.)
Reader Feedback:
im sorry but your artical about the heavy rescue squads over turning is just bad journalism. i am a local firefighter and it ticks me off to no end to hear you question us if we are firefighters or cowboys and to keep calling us cowboys instead of what we are and that is FIREFIGHTERS. i have bought and read your so called newspaper several times i will not buy it again and will let everyone i know as to why they should not support you anymore. it is truly insane that you would for lack of better terms dog us on what we do. we are there to save life property and the  environment. what i dont understand is how you can bash us for one mistake per department. things happen and you nor i nor anyone else can do to avoid it. you were not there to witness either squad 7 nor squad 3 flip you are not a investigator either so until the final report comes out do not speculat on what happend from what you see from other news sources or photos. as to the fact that its a 2 way street when it comes to the public and us while were going lights and sirens sorry but honestly its not. anyone no matter who it is needs to realize its against the law to not pull over and come to a COMPLETE stop you must come to a complete stop. now i know there is no way in this world for everyone to get out of the way right away. but at least do your best because those sirens are loud and can be heard for a long distance away. now as far as the watch desk goes sir you have no right to go on that site and post what has been said. that is just wronge. your from the county you should have better sense than to do that. now for the part as to saying some departments should not be buying a new equipment when its not needed im not going to mention any department names or company numbers but i do know who you are talking about and unless u have ridden in that old truck trying to make some of the turns in their first due than you dont have any idea as to why they need a new one and besides that its over 30 years old im guessing if it was up to you we would still have the old steammers around just to save money instead of buying what is needed with changing times.
Robert Balderson
(Thank you for serving as a firefighter and for your viewpoint. It is not too much to ask of fire companies to slow their drivers down so they will actually arrive at the emergency with the equipment that they need intact.  We don't need to speculate on what happened.  Both squads were being operated at speeds greater than reasonable, that is why they turned over.  Had they been sitting still they would still be upright. Since the vehicles need to leave the firehouse and respond to the emergency call, the speed at which they are operated from point A to point B determines whether or not they make it.)


 
 

 

 

 

 


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