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St. Mary's
School Bus Drivers Sound
Off About Student Violence on Buses send your comments to staff@stmarystoday.com If you don't like it, stop driving a bus!
To the school bus drivers and entire
St. Mary's County Community,
Let me begin by that I hope that
the St. Mary's Today will after reviewing this
letter appreciate why I have not only selected this
particular forum to express my views on the school bus
driver safety issue, but in fact publish it for all to see.
From what I have read in your publication, regarding certain
issues, there are particular categories of citizens whose
opinions for the most part are not really welcomed by the
St. Mary's Today newspapers; (1) anyone not born,
bred and raised in St. Mary's County, (2) African-American,
and well educated and concerned about community issues, (3)
never having been involved in or accused of either using or
selling crack cocaine or any other illicit drugs, or driving
while intoxicated, (4) being on social assistance or asking
the county to feed yourself and your family or otherwise
disabled, (5) a very distinguished law enforcement career
with any other agency other than the St. Mary's County
Sheriff's Department, and lastly willing to work and earn an
honest living and pay my taxes, regardless of what language
I speak or if I hold a Green Card or not. Unfortunately, I
am in each of these categories. Having said this, a number
of you may ask what the heck is this clown writing about an
issue like the apparent lack of respect for school bus
drivers in St. Mary's County, what does he know? Here is
what I know about the problem, first of all I am a recently
retired police officer with over 34 years of law enforcement
experience from another jurisdiction. Secondly, when I
started with my former agency in 1974, one of the most
readily available jobs to earn extra part-time money for
sworn officers was to, yes you guessed it, driving a school
bus, which I in fact did for many, many years. For the many
bus drivers complaining about a lack of respect and the
conduct of the children you drive daily, and the feeling of
no support from the school board and parents, try driving in
a system where the average parent was a doctor, lawyer, or
politician! I am talking about an environment where even
the police where expected to use the "service entrance" when
responding to a call for service. Anyway, several years
ago, preparing for my retirement, my wife and I elected to
purchase property and build a home down here in St. Mary's
County, in Ridge as a matter of fact. Prior to retiring, I
decided to make use of my expertise gained as a law
enforcement officer working with youth gangs, (Hispanic and
Black, Asian, Jamaican) to good use here in my new home of
St. Mary's County, by among other things working as a
Substitute Teacher at both Spring Ridge, and Great Mills
High School.
I took this job as a substitute
teacher with the hopes that knowing what our children are
faced with, I could somehow make a difference as to their
futures and it was certainly not because of the salary!
After reading some of the "sob stories" from some of the
drivers especially the "single parents" driving buses to
earn money to put their OWN children through school, I have
to speak up and tell it like it is. Some of your own
"children" in the classroom are the most disruptive to the
teacher, simply because, you come home after a particularly
bad day complaining in front of your own children using not
only names, but, racial and religious descriptions!
Children tend to follow the lead of not only what their
parents do, but, also the degree of respect or lack thereof
for other cultures!
My suggestion to all of you
(school bus drivers and parents) is, if you do not like what
the "system" is teaching your children, stop driving a bus,
quit your day time job, and become a substitute school
teacher! If you think that school bus drivers do not
receive the RESPECT that they should, try being a teacher or
an Administrator for that matter, whom you feel is
responsible only for YOUR CHILD, and not the hundreds of
others. Stop blaming the school board, administrators,
teachers, County Commissioners, and the police for your own
failures as parents, single or not. What your child does at
home including telling you as the parent to shut-up or go to
h....., they are definitely saying the same thing to their
bus driver, teacher, and classmates. Look in the mirror and
see where they are getting it from, think about it the next
time you march into your child's school complaining about a
bus driver arriving late and YOUR child missing the bus,
only because you failed to instill in them the rules
of LIFE, which WE ALL have to obey. I am sick and tired of
people using the race, cultural, and even Green Card
question as an excuse to cover up just plain poor parenting,
you elected to have children then help our community raise
them, or just SHUT UP!
R.S.
Ridge
I am a concerned parent that just finished
reading the comments made by the bus drivers. Oh my god!
Something needs to change Now. This is a public safety issue.
Imagine trying to drive down the road safely with 50 children
carrying on behind you. My girls are well behaved but if they
were not the driver must be able to have them removed to
preserve the safety of the other children. These drivers need
our support and respect. We have already lost the buses that
used to bring our children home from after school activities
(Sports, Band Etc.) think for a moment what it would be like if
we as parents were tasked with the responsibility of getting our
children to and from school ourselves. If we do not support
these drivers we will certainly lose them as they find other
less stressful jobs. In closing I would like to personally thank
each one of you drivers for your patience and perseverance and
on behalf of the drivers I would beg the appointed supervisors
to resolve these issues now. A wise man once told me, "Your
either part of the problem, or part of the solution, You chose".
I would like to be part of the solution. Thank you again to all
you bus drivers and I hope action will be taken to lessen your
daily problems.
II am a parent of three children
in the St. Mary's County School system, two in
elementary and one just started middle school this year.
For the last three years my kids have had the same bus
driver until this year when the transportation
department decided to switch a lot of drivers schedules,
which is expected from time to time. I was so happy to
learn that this particular bus drivers new route (all
though would not include the two smaller children) did
include my daughter that was starting her first year of
middle school, which made me feel as comfortable as if I
was taking her to school myself because this driver
treated our children as if they were her own. I think I
can speak for all of the parents in our small
neighborhood to the degree of my meaning of being
treated as her own. This driver would tell us (meaning
any parent in the neighborhood) of any concerns what so
ever in reference to our children from them not feeling
well to if they had a problem on the bus no matter how
small or even something that may have happened in school
because my kids would console in her as she is more than
just a bus driver she is a FRIEND. THREE YEARS grows on
people especially children, RESPECT was earned and given
to all on the bus as long as they just followed rules
(SIMPLE RULES).
Now that being said I will now
tell you of my displeasure of finding out that this bus
drivers route had been changed yet again after only a
little over a week into school because of what I
understand from my inquiry as to why to have been one
of those ungrateful my kid doesn't do wrong parents who
thought that the bus was arriving late for her standards
at the bus stop in the morning, by the way not by the
rest of the counties standards because the children were
still arriving to school on time so no harm no foul to
their education best I can tell. Many thanks to that
parent for that as my understanding now is the bus that
took over the route arrives at the same time as
the original bus, so what was accomplished?
I am amazed that anyone could even
begin to blame bus drivers for the actions of what could
be 50 individuals on a full bus ( I think that's
the average seating per bus ) acting up all at one time,
granted I hope that is normally not the case. But as it
may go for the older kids, if they act up on the
buses the way they do in public, meaning from the store,
the park, the movies, the fair or even in your
neighborhood (Just Think About It). I have to agree
with the drivers there are deep rooted issues that would
be hard for anyone to tolerate, much less try to
control. I am shocked at the language and the actions
that they use as if it was or meant nothing.
I was raised when the switch and
the belt got your attention, which is now extinct like
the dinosaurs. But if you look around everyone raised
that way turned out just fine. These days children are
taught in school about child abuse and that if they feel
they are being abused, (and most still don't fully
understand the meaning) to tell the teacher or
principal and they can have them removed from the home,
(this is how some children see that). As from first hand
experience at Wal-Mart a child was acting up over and
over again and the parent asked repeatedly and
repeatedly for them to stop. Finally the child turned to
the parent and said No, I don't have to,
(used profanities), and if you touch me I will tell my
principal and he will take me out of our house and would
get me a new home. My mouth dropped to the floor and it
made me wonder exactly what are they telling these kids.
We are by no means parents of the
year but we try hard to raise our kids right and the
first thing that we taught them is RESPECT as that was
the first rule for us growing up, especially to RESPECT
YOUR ELDERS! It can be seen all around that the
word RESPECT means nothing to most anymore just a word
in the dictionary or a spelling word.
I am in no way calling other
parents bad, as there are so many that are doing the
best job that can do with what they have to work with.
But there are as most of you have probably seen or even
know some parents that dont care, or have basically
given up because they also have laws that cant be
broken. For fear of someone knocking on their door from
family services or the police department with a
complaint by someone or a child that abuse may be in the
home. Those are normally the kids that are what other
people have referred to as the bad apples or seeds and I
sympathize for those parents. Good job to all those
parents who are trying the best they can and keep up the
good work, try not to give up. For all those kids I
wish they could realize, which most don't, Riding The
Bus Is A Privilege. Also how really good that they have
it and how they take so many things in their everyday
life for granted i.e. a home, food, friends and family.
Just a little thought, as no one
seems to look at the big picture anymore and are all so
quick to lay blame on the first thing or person in front
of them. In my opinion the bus drivers are not to blame
and never were.
Please, next time you see the bus
drivers picking up or dropping off your kids, just wave
or go over and say hello. You will see they are just
like you and me, that they are doing the best job they
can with what they have to work with.
Good Luck to all and Have a Safe
Holiday Season
Great Mills Area Resident
Why
don't you talk about bus drivers who are on the their
cellphone. When kids are on the bus.
How disgusting, I had a sub bus driver
on my bus yesterday, so I could do a field trip and when I got
home the driver called me and said that a student coughed up a
big glob of spit and spit it on the floor. The driver went to
the back of the bus to find out who it was and no-one would say
anything but they sure were laughing about it. I was on my bus
this morning and I let everyone off except for the ones that
were sitting in the back. One student refused to stay
back.I really tried to get him to stay, but he chose to leave.
I talked to a teacher about and she gave me another way to try.
I talked to the other student's and could get nothing out of
them. You know we have to clean it up and we don't know what
kids have and so on. They put makeup on and you ask them not to
and they say, what does it matter to you. you feel like well you
know how you would feel. They trash up your bus. They just make
it hard for the good student's and the driver. So you see we
don't just drive we clean up after them, we take nasty coments
from them we get told to f off f you and so on. What are we to
do. If my child talked to me like that, I would do all that I
could to make sure it didn't happen again, and if I even thought
about it when I was growing up my mother, well lets just say I
would not have any front teeth. school bus driver.
I would like to respond to the
comments made by everyone about school bus drivers and
disruptive kids. Riding the School Bus is a PRIVILEGE, not
a RIGHT. I am a very active parent and also used to drive a
school bus and I have seen first hand that sometimes, it is
NOT the children's fault - it is their parents. You would
be amazed at the number of children, in the elementary
school grades, who board and exit the school bus by
themselves. In many cases, their parents are still in bed.
That's right, they have slept through the most important
part of their kids' day. The morning is the time of day
when a person's outlook on the rest of the day is
determined; if the parents are there, or have at least
prepared them beforehand (packed lunch, given lunch money,
made sure they ate, I have seen many co-workers call their
kids while they themselves are on the bus going to work, to
make sure their kids are up and moving), not to mention
saying those three little words "I Love You" or "Have a Good
Day", then the kids actually know someone cares. If no one
assists them with getting ready for school, why should they
care? Think about it.
A lot of people take advantage of the
system. They feel like from 7:30 until about 4:00, their
children are someone else's responsibility. I have attended
numerous parent meetings about bus behavior, where the
parents have told me that I need to learn to control THEIR
kid, or when the parents don't even show up. This sends the
message to the student that #1) "Mom doesn't care, I can do
what I want" or even more sad, #2) "Mom just doesn't care".
I have been in situations where I have seen athletic coaches
stay at school for over an hour waiting for a parent to pick
their child up. I have also seen kids who participate in
athletic activities on the high school level and their
parents NEVER go to their games, and many times, don't pick
their kid up, they rely on someone else to get their kid
home. You can't really blame the attitudes or behavior of
the kids on the kids, it should rest on their parents, who
are raising their kids to feel as though they can do what
they want, because no one cares.
The one thing that EVERYONE needs to
be reminded of is: "Riding the School Bus is a PRIVILEGE,
not a RIGHT". If a child acts disruptive on the bus, he is
not only causing a potential danger to the students around
him, but he is causing a potential danger to everyone on the
bus and everyone on the road around the bus. Bus drivers do
not have eyes in the back of their heads. Put yourself in
their position. You are driving a 35 foot vehicle with 60
kids on it. Do you think you could pay attention to the
road and the cars around you, AND the 60 kids who are
laughing, jumping seats, throwing paper, listening to their
IPODS, or slapping the kid in the seat next to them? Most
of us have cars or SUV's and driving 3 or 4 kids around is
enough to drive us crazy. Bus Drivers and school
administrators need to start taking away this PRIVILEDGE,
which would require the parents to take a more active role
and get their kids to school on their own. Maybe if parents
start having to miss work or having to get up out of bed to
take their kids to school, maybe if parents are
inconvenienced a little because of their children's actions,
maybe then the recklessness taking place on school buses
will start to diminish.
School Bus Drivers have a THANKLESS
job. They don't get paid near what they are worth and the
least they should get is support from the school
administration and the Board of Education
School System Is Becoming a Joke
I drive a school bus and I see the school
system in the USA becoming a joke. Other countries have stern
measures to protect and and punish fellow students. What is
happening is we as the AUTHORITY figures are being undermined.
I'd say 25% of parents send their kids to school to be baby-sat.
That 25% of kids is the bad apple in the bushel we need to
eliminate them to get order like in the good old days, back when
a good old fashioned arse-whippin got respect.
TO ALL THE PARENTS OUT THERE: IF YOU CANNOT CONTROL YOUR OWN KIDS DON'T BURDEN US BUS DRIVERS, WHEN YOUR CHILDREN DON'T LISTEN TO VERBAL COMMANDS BY YOU ALL OTHER THINGS ARE JUST A JOKE. WAKE UP. THIS IS REALITY DON'T EXPECT US TO BE THE PUNCHING BAGS FOR THE KIDS YOU CANNOT CONTROL YOURSELF. By the way, WE AS AMERICANS ARE ALLOWED TO PROTECT OURSELVES FROM LIFE THREATENING DANGER. I SUGGEST YOU TEACH YOUR KIDS RESPECT OR THEY WILL NOT RECEIVE IT IN RETURN!!!!! JWD Bus Drivers says Toleration is Not The Answer I am
also a driver for St Marys County Public Schools. I understand
exactly what these drivers are going through. The behavior of
some of these kids is outrageous. I don't think anyone who
hasn't been a bus driver before knows how hard it is to drive
down the road with a bus load of children screaming, yelling and
fighting only a matter of inches behind you. I really feel sorry
for all of the well behaved children that have to witness this
every day just to receive the education that they have a right
too. There are many children that have come from good homes, and
are taught to respect others, that have to sit next to violence,
profanity, threats, prejudice, and name calling on a daily
basis. There has been countless times that children have come to
me in tears because they want to sit somewhere else because they
fear the children around them. I can not tell you how many times
I have been threatened with bodily harm. And, even though I am
an adult it is still scary. Face it, we live in a time where
there are children walking into schools with guns and knives and
even bombs and really killing people. But, these threats are
never taken seriously. These children can do and say anything
they want to their drivers and nothing is done to them. They
might get suspended from the bus for a few days or the school
may call their parents and tell them. And, most of the time it's
the children whose parents don't care any way. I have called the
police several times about threats that I have received and
nothing is ever done. Bus Driver
Says Discipline Rules Should Be
I am sorry that students are giving the
bus drivers a hard time but I am so glad that some students are
doing every thing possible to get to school!! How is it possible
that one brother made it on the bus and the second brother had
to resort to extraordinary lengths to board the bus? Was
there more involved to this story? Get the boys statement,
Please. For goodness sakes do not expel children who are
trying to get an education, we need them to learn how to be
productive members of society.
Thank you from a concerned citizen.
Mary Norris
Irresponsible Bus Drivers?
Why
don't you talk about bus drivers who let their students fist
fight on the bus?
Porzia Arnsen
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